Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by SemiconductorCat » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:43 am

I don't understand what are you going to make this place as a debate place :O

I am sorry about my post.But I ma telling what I feel when I see this. I didn't read any post other than your topic (I don't like it :P)
Both cheating and exam rules are off-topic from pure tech interests, In cheating I just post that original
thread to share the technological background of Cheating ,
Like cheating eraser , cheating LCD ruler , cheating watches , cheating eye googles, etc.
share the true tech side of that.

. Here we find all tech interested ppl.
I not taking neither "exam officer's" side or "cheater's side. I don't care it.I'll be silent and just do
my work if I have seen someone is cheating.That's the method I do encourage to others to follow.
And yes if you need true skills then you have to start taking short notes and studying continuously
whole semester not near the exam dates. I do not encourage cheating please understand that.


anyway for the question that you ask:
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so
Is that fair?
No it's not fair.

But my answer should be extended , to do so , [because otherwise a wrong message will gone to public]
So let me make another question for you.
Is that wise to talk against them?
No totally it isn't.No it isn't. Unfortunately this had become the government university strategy, even the
university staff ! Strike and shouting against government will return you nothing ! Should be intelligent to
understand that thing clearly. I do say this because I love to the juniors who are entering new
and who are doing A/L in Sri Lanka. Just what I telling is mind your own business and don't try to
change the world. Read the history of the ppl who have tried to change the world, Like Lasantha ,
they all dead, you should not be unfortunate to that.

Exam cheating is also like that, if you see someone cheating , just stay silent and do your work. Just don't
care it. Where in this forum I told or encourage ppl to cheat on exam? If you want real skills in
mathematics then what you all need is just Concentration /Patience and courage. But sound against
someone saying "Hay you cheated and you take my place" is stupid !

In the job there may be a exam cheater who have came there by cheating exams or by a fake degree.
There are universities in Russia / China that you can pay and take a degree by few cicks. [the hard part
is paying]. that kind of people are there in our government top positions. Speaking against them
is what is called "time wasting". and I'm not talking any political side [ I'm on the side who can offer me a
job opportunity ,I don't care who he/she is or which party:) ]. And that also keep the balance of the
government isn't it? For a example now we have the safty of our lives. No bus bombs etc. Think thanks to whoom?
actually we don't have to thank , we already paid the price for to obtain their security. And ppl who ordered
to destroy LTTE also have a sin. that's the reality. In other words we need someone cruval and someone
cheat y as our head of the government.He will suffer for that he done in his next life at hell or whatever[I
don't have the knowledge to tell].But facts are facts , it's the balance of the nature. Nature is not complete
and that's how it's complete ,so don't challenge it.Nobody is a hero, but they believe they are hero's.So don't
mind them and keep on Tech Interest, someday you''ll find a good job that extractly fits your interests with
enough [ not enough but reasonable] salary in your life. Be silent and improve yourself if you want to
become an Engineer.
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by Face » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:53 am

Keep debating with every one about cheating brother wish you luck for your future :D
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by SemiconductorCat » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:50 am

Face wrote:Keep debating with every one about cheating brother wish you luck for your future :D
I don't have a debt. but facts are facts !
Intelligent ppl don't debt or going to change the world, they silently mediate and obtain nirvana.
Just only showed the dark side of how "University Student " thinks. that's the wrong the age. where
they can organize as a gang, and they are isolated from their parents too. They start to think they
are hero's, they thinking they are the man who can convert bad world to good. I have heard
so many sad stories about those students , what had happens to them inside the police etc.

I have wrote this facts because I love them, other students like me who are learning computer science.
Just try to understand world is not fair. and even don't bug somebody about "He cheated and he took
my place" even it's true.
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by Herath » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:21 am

Can't do much rather than feeling sorry for you. I did not even waste my time reading all your posts. Here is something from the sinhala literature. (I also have an A pass in English Literature too ;). That's my turn to brag. Okay? )
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by Face » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:36 pm

Nice reply From Herath.... I love sinhala lit :P
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by SemiconductorCat » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:40 am

what I know is I respect Lord Buddha, and great Lord Buddha is my first great person that I believe.
my leader !


Oky but I want to say that our government is doing lots of evil things than student is just cheating.
It's right the big corruptions are started with the small small corruptions. Like this video,
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_Igij6rJQ[/media]
That's why I said "I didn't encourage the corruption",
Neo, if you want to bring a idea in-front of this knowledge community to "break the chain of corruption" like
that , good ,I'll also help you. But the real problem is you don't have the right to condemn other ppl who
are in their places by copying exams and promoted to their positions that they currently holding.

and corruption is everywhere in the world, taking against it is crazy, and it's normal university culture
that ppl shout against corruptions , shouting against government etc etc. Fortunately I'm a OUSL
open University student and I pay and obtain education so I'm not stupid to believe I can change the world.
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by Neo » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:58 am

I really don't know the best way to handle you. I'm not a psychologist.

I have given you so much of chances even though I received several PMs from my senior members asking to ban you. I don't mind our seniors are experts or students, they are just the driving force of ROBOT.LK.
Neo, if you want to bring a idea in-front of this knowledge community to "break the chain of corruption" like
that , good ,I'll also help you. But the real problem is you don't have the right to condemn other ppl who
are in their places by copying exams and promoted to their positions that they currently holding.

and corruption is everywhere in the world, taking against it is crazy, and it's normal university culture
that ppl shout against corruptions , shouting against government etc etc. Fortunately I'm a OUSL
open University student and I pay and obtain education so I'm not stupid to believe I can change the world.
This is unethical speaking. If Lord Buddha and Jesus Christ thought in the same way, world would have been a different place.

See what Herath had told you,
You are always talking about very advanced stuff and sounds like most of them are just out of the research lab. You can keep your thinking, it is not a problem. But the thing is that, we will never be successful as a nation if we adopt your ideas. Its not all about having a job, earning your meal and maintaining a family. Even the man from the stone age could do that. This is about going a step further.
It looks like you don't have that intelligence to understand any of these. You are just a king of your own kingdom. You just do not listen. I'm really worried about this mentality of you.

https://robot.lk/viewtopic.php?f=74&p=8643#p8643
fast learning fast forgetting is a joke. Anyway let's joke somehere else, not in 'web related' forum.
You spoke to two of our team mates on their innocent conversation. Who has given you power to speak in that way here. This is ROBOT.LK, not your home. Nipuna and Rksk are very nice guys. I really don't like anybody to upset them.
Neo isn't here, but he asked me to monitor the forum for few days. If it was him, he would give you some more chances, but not me.
SevenZero who is a supporting member of ROBOT.LK had to state something strict on you. I haven't seen anything like this before.

Okay. As the admin I will have to take a decision now. It's more more democratic to get the idea of all seniors. This is nothing more than what you'll see in your real life when you are doing a job.
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by Nipuna » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:26 am

I think you have said him before to get him into the good path.

If he can't be like that then decision is yours
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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by SemiconductorCat » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:55 pm

Okay. As the admin I will have to take a decision now. It's more more democratic to get the idea of all seniors. This is nothing more than what you'll see in your real life when you are doing a job.
It's completely oky, if other members wanit me to leave and I don't have the welcome I'll leave. But
Just let me know. And it's clear I some ppl are following me from here to other technical discussions
because they have defeated in here. It only shows that you already defeated in the debt infront of a
knowledge community.

And about job, I'm fired non because of my attitude problems , I actually not fired , I let my boss to know
that I can't handle this anymore and I want to ramp up my skills. Neo's dream world , he's making
conclusions and assumptions and make decisions. Neo, sorry for saying this, your the one who
living in a dream world.It's clear the world does not run the way that you think neo.
I have given you so much of chances even though I received several PMs from my senior members asking to ban you. I don't mind our seniors are experts or students, they are just the driving force of ROBOT.LK.
I don't need to be in a place where ppl have no welcome me. So let me know.

You spoke to two of our team mates on their innocent conversation. Who has given you power to speak in that way here. This is ROBOT.LK, not your home. Nipuna and Rksk are very nice guys. I really don't like anybody to upset them.
this is wrong. I never told anyone to leave robot.lk ! I do tell them to find that appropriate forum where
they interest JOKES.They can invite me on PM if I welcome there. Think, in university some of your friends
are studying and is it ethical to shout and joke in the same bench?

about sevenzero, I think he is the Java Form moderator.Oky I'm also not prefect I apologize there.
this discussion on cheating have nothing to do with it.

and after all , Neo, you are the one who started this debt, and sounds like you have defeated ! I have
proved you wrong. Your the one who wanted a debt and you have been defeated in debt, I have
nothing to do with it. Anyway I need the welcome to live here, if no longer please let me know.

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Re: Open debate on cheating exams... is it fair?

Post by SemiconductorCat » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:09 pm

Nipuna wrote:I think you have said him before to get him into the good path.

If he can't be like that then decision is yours
Nipuna, not it's different. I don't want to let my idea down. Because I felt reasonable.

I'm here to share the knowledge , And I need welcome here to live. I don't want to be
in a place where ppl told me to go.

But my idea, it's complicated ! and Nipuna , you also should not believe Neo's private
beliefs as it is. Just respect his knowledge and expertise and follow him,you'll be good
with skills and job like him someday. but develop your own idea inside yourself.

This is the person that I'm following,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan
and I want to be skilled like him and have respect to his skills/expertise.
But what he believe is LTTE Elam, I suggest to keep that outside and only take his good things
what I required when I following him.

Ps- Sounds like Nipuna also don't like my stay here, oky this is your home EXPERTCORE and
I'm new here [2 months I think] so I'm still a guest, so ask me to nicely to leave if you feel so.
Just PM me NEO, or if you need other members vote,then open a voting poll, but I expect
ppl to respect me there too. Just if you want me to leave then tell it nicely, just vote
for no stay.
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